This Cessna had been built in 1974. About 0832:25, the airplane came into view in a wings-level, nose-high descent. Runway 20 has one. Looking at obstacle markings on the BYI RW20 approach plate, it is interesting to compare to ALL of the HEYBURN-associated obstacles that exist in the current 16-ID.dat obstacle database.Notably, the 4179' obstruction shown by the river at 7th avenue in the inset runway detail of the plate is not in the database, appears to be Gossner's Magic Valley Chalet based on low height and location. To Anonymous, dated Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 2:55:00 AM EDTQuestion: What explanation do you have besides your technical dissertation of how to interpret ADS-B data for what occurred besides the broken busted minima mantra? she went full power and still couldn't climb out of it. Our beautiful and beloved daughter, granddaughter, sister, niece, cousin and friend will be missed more than words can express, but she will be in all our hearts until we meet again. The "I'd like to return" call is actually heard much later, around the 14 minute mark in the unedited LiveAtc recording, at which time ADS-B shows the corresponding position is at the turn back location, halfway to Malibu.The tuber's incorrect synchronization is made worse by text placed at the start of the video titled "Nature of the situation" stating that the pilot wanted to return "just after departure" when in fact he made that call several miles up the beach while well on the way to Malibu.The channel that posted that video is attempting to mimic a well known channel that properly time synchronizes track position to comm timing. Even after receiving her bachelors degree, all Brittney wanted to do was fly. It is nonsense to suggest that because the perfect approach was 100ft to the side of the stack and above it, that it was okay! A man lost his life and RIP to his loved ones and friends. You are on your own to figure out an appropriate descent angle to keep you clear of the numerous hazardous obstacles on final. I know this is an uncorrected altitude for temp/pressure so if you add the 50 to 100' as suggested above for correction, that would put the aircraft at about 4250' MSL. Fortunately, no one was hurt.The step up from the instruction/GA world to single-pilot 135 is huge. Such a bad place for a 10 story tall obstruction :(, Here are 2 images of what ForeFlight synthetic vision would have shown at 4300' and 4560' (MDA) respectively https://photos.app.goo.gl/dHgeEAniT9PpWu3o7. All three aboard were killed in the crash . If visibility was 1 SM, and the ASOS is 600' west of the threshold, then the pilot broke out only 2100' (lateral distance) before the tower. Witnesses on the ground said the plane's wings came off mid-air in high winds before a shower of debris fell from the sky. According to a witness, located about one quarter mile away, he first heard, then observed the airplane descend out of the clouds then immediately went into a steam cloud, which was produced from a set of six smokestacks located on the same roof. They didn't even have the correct flight plan with the assigned approach procedure set in the FMC. This is probably why the pilot decided to continue the approach. "That's what you get if capitalism runs unchecked and controls every aspect of public life: commercials, banalities and emotions instead of reason, science and art that make life so much fuller. The imgur caption has the correct runway number. A National Transportation Safety Board investigator arrived on the scene on Tuesday. 1, 1, 1 1/2, 2 statute mile visibility was not previously discussed in comments.) We also know that this position was too low as thousands of other flights landed on that runway without hitting the stack.The MDH seems much lower than the OVC layer. She must have had sight of the runway lights which allowed her to descend below MDA but didn't see the smokestack. sadly, we'll never know what she was seeing or thinking in those final moments. The airplane subsequently struck the smokestack and fell to the rooftop. Additionally, with the needles centered she would have been 100 feet to the right of the stacks on a normal GPS approach.Looking at the ADS-B track on the missed it shows her at 6950 which should be coming from the GPS. Yes, sorry about the typo, runway 20, not 30. The POH manual in most light singles states that you don't deploy flaps during an engine out until your aim point can be confirmed to be made just as in regular landing configuration when powered. . KBYI has a 3.7 degree glidepath for obstacles, including the plant and the railroad brige, which would put her at 66.7 feet over the threshold and about 108 feet over the end of the displaced threshold. At that point, the pilot would be using external visual references or at least trying to. For a moment let's adjust your pass-over clearance results of 63' and 73' up by that extra 16 feet to get 79' and 89' pass-over clearances while pretending that the FAA database numbers are spot on (read on for the surprise! As she descended she may have lost sight of the runway. Agree that the silos and chimney were not a factor; I did a Google maps street view and nothing is very high on that property. Not sure why there's a discrepancy between the plate and the database (another FAA problem: which elevation, if either, is correct?). Doesn't make sense to say "I read all the comments" and then talk about runway lighting when comments upthread established that the crash at 8:32 AM was an hour and a half after the 6:56 sunrise. And no, it's not the left who's behind that, it's those who "own" this country.Take a look at Newton Minow's "Vast Wasteland" Speech, already from 1961!That's what you get if capitalism runs unchecked and controls every aspect of public life: commercials, banalities and emotions instead of reason, science and art that make life so much fuller.Be safe up there. "4,000 feet is short for a Caravan? Second, if ANYTHING needs to be checked up, how about checking up our FEDERAL GOVERNMENT in WASHINGTON with out of control wasteful spending on taxpayer AND borrowed freaking MONEY!!!! Seems like you are grasping for something to be upset about, or need to work on reading comprehension. When the airport manager says things to you like "it don't look good to me I don't know what you guys are thinkin'." So the potato plant has their own fan club that is going to come to their defense if they get blamed for this crash? If there is an option because the beach is completely unoccupied, is there an ideal choice to make between aiming for the sand or the water? She was going to hit something as that rate was not arrested. It may be tempting to go below the MDA before the VDP at an uncontrolled field, but then again, why do it and risk death? Minor injuries to two aboard. Louisiana are three of the apparent victims in a plane crash in Lefthand Canyon west of Boulder on July 17. The approach plate shows the smokestack at 4,304' MSL. Source:https://trellis.law/judge/rex.h.minterAirmen registry shows he and Doris BOTH having Commercial Pilot and Mechanic A&P certs, ASEL, Instrument (plus AMEL for him), his last third class med exam 1998, hers 2013. The Cessna 421 plane crash was just after 11 am local time this morning. From the eyewitness testimony in the preliminary report, we know the she did enter the steam cloud.As for the MDA, if she had the runway in view (and likely did at this range, as the forward visibility was given as 1 statute mile, she was already below the cloud base, and the stack is almost exactly 0.5 mi from the threshold of the runway), she was ok to be below MDA.I also want to emphasize that the impacted stack is DIRECTLY on the extended centerline of the runway. Other company pilots: "BYI steam is routine, I can land there just fine"7. You don't have any vertical guidance at all, so if you're a bit low for whatever reason you don't know it then you're dead. I will say that the analyses here have been very well thought out and thought provoking. We have 789 CESSNA Aircraft For Sale. If so, should have gone missed a second time. That's not saying it isn't a challenging approach but something else was going on here. 0. "If you knew how an ASOS worked, you'd know it wasn't anything to do with being in IMC. Why not divert and avoid the known and just-previewed danger?Looking at known and possible "Not diverting this time" bias factors:- Known bias factors:1. Anonymous, if the visibility was as good as you say it was, why did the pilot hit the tower? The single isolated stack is perfectly positioned to snag an aircraft that is suddenly enshrouded in the condensate clouds and losing altitude. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N2217R/history/20220508/1750Z/KTWF/KTWF We are lucky there wasn't a second accident at KBYI! "Clipped from the July 1975 Newsletter:https://www.ninety-nines.org/pdf/newsmagazine/197507.pdf(See pdf sheet 5)Also, a 1967 99's newsletter asks members to write Mayor Minter letters, because the Orange County Chapter was still fighting to keep SMO open at that time.https://www.ninety-nines.org/pdf/newsmagazine/196704.pdf(See pdf sheet 15, top left)If not for the Minter's efforts, SMO would have been closed and surrendered to developers decades ago. It's true that 109' separation isn't a lot, but the outdated overhead view of the stack that google maps shows tends to make commenters here miss the red steel base structure and sampler's work platform at the very top in the more recent street view images. That 31,000-fpm descent rate is one of the last pieces of usable radar data the Nashville TRACON's radar recorded from N66BK, a Cessna Citation 501, before it crashed into Lake Percy Priest . Take this for what it is - some old pilot's opinion. Advertisement. This approach has an MDA of 408 AGL, a glideslope of 3.75, do the math. Kathryn's Report: Most Read All Time. Those stacks were well outside where any airplane should ever find itself. do these decision makers even know the difference between a precision and non precision approach? The accident happened at sunrise and coincided with rush hour. )Investigators have the task of figuring out why the descent angle increased to 6.5 in the final 21 seconds/2,650 feet horizontal travel distance of flight. Oh, right--where IS the VDP on this approach? It's not the answers that friends and family will want.The Caravans of today, even one 9 years old, are equipped with the G1000 avionics system, really about a dozen computers. From accountability to safety? No preview function. This tragic accident highlights the risk of anyone flying in a single engine aircraft over areas with minimal forced landing space. There are less than 4,000 feet available for landing. They just list basic facts and observations with occasional cursory analysis. freight dogs fly to some airports that are questionable at best with shaky non precision step down approaches with no glideslope. It is however possible to experience a flameout and subsequent loss of power under certain conditions. Flying a stabilized approach the plant and the runway should have been visible about a mile out. It makes my heart sick to think about what this delightful person must have gone through. The falling droplets drag air down. (or the overcast). RIP. Visitation will begin at 10:30 the morning of the funeral. It may have been mentioned earlier, but the leading edge of the left gear leg looks crushed. The view under the wing would give you about a mile as reported at the airport. -- Source links --The accident flight:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220413/1300Z/KSLC/KBYIThe diverted flight on April 12:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220412/1300Z/KSLC/KTWFRaw archive METARs for BYI & TWF, 12 & 13 April:https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/cgi-bin/request/asos.py?station=BYI&station=TWF&data=all&year1=2022&month1=4&day1=12&year2=2022&month2=4&day2=14&tz=Etc%2FUTC&format=onlycomma&latlon=no&elev=no&missing=M&trace=T&direct=no&report_type=1&report_type=2, There wasnt a lot of time for the pilot to set up the second approach prior to the really abbreviated vectors to the final approach. Most of "those pilots" (as you call them) do just fine at almost all single pilot 135 operations and if they "don't get it", it's your job to weed them out. There is no need to conflate the egregious errors in the case of N56KJ. The altimeter at the destination airport was 29.97, so the pressure altitude correction would be +50 feet, that combined with FlightAware's rounding error and a +/- 75 foot allowed altimeter variance means the pilot may not have busted the MDA on the first approach as was implied. MDA's are there for a reason. Easy enough to black out signatures.Was he given permission to take that marker light?You wouldn't think that an expert would expect a strobe light instead of the red marker to be placed that close to the airport, given the easy to find advisory circular guidance, as noted in a previous comment:http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2022/04/cessna-208b-grand-caravan-n928jp-fatal.html?showComment=1650238952384#c1446716018867091538. . You have nailed it. Presumably, the decision to descend from cruise altitude for BYI on the accident day followed similar protocol.Let's look at the METARs available for making the real-time decision on each of those two days:The divert from BYI to Twin Falls on the day before the accident shows up as a turn toward TWF underway at 14:52:44 Z. Perhaps he could have dumped full flaps and ground effected to just clear over the retreating water waves which is what they hit to flip over. I bet that last moment of reality was shocking. Here are the latest details into LALATE. The wind at the time of the crash was just so that the steam plume was pushing right down the line of the runway. Brittney went on to graduate from Utah State University with a degree in Finance in 2018. To get the actual indicated altitude, you need to correct it with the local altimeter setting. Yesterday's divert impact/scramble is fresh in dispatcher's mind.- Possible bias factors:5. The FAA isn't in the habit of approving approaches that don't meet TERPS, so that is a given. Give it up, she didn't bust minimums she got sucked right into that smokestack by the steam cloud she couldn't get out of in time.This is 100% on the potato plant. This entrained air can be warmer than ambient, especially on a cold day. Accident Investigation report not yet completed, but information verified through authorities or other sources. An Airmens Meteorological Information (AIRMET) advisory was active for icing and mountain obscurations for areas that included BYI.By the way, the automated weather facility at KBYI is an ASOS, not AWOS. She descended out of the clouds and was quickly enveloped in the steam cloud (as witnessed by people on the ground and by surveillance video). Well he set the brake and forgot to release it. The mash adheres to the drums, but is not exposed to the steam inside, and dries. If she didn't hit the tower, she would of hit the parking lot. Kathryn's Report: Most Read This Year Cessna 208B Grand Caravan, N928JP: Fatal accident occurred April 13, 2022 near Burley Municipal Airport (KBYI), Cassia County, Idaho Cirrus SR22 GTS, N24LA: Fatal accident occurred May 06, 2022 in the Atlantic Ocean near Tybee Island, Georgia Brittney was preceded in death by her paternal and maternal grandparents, Vera and Ray Infanger and Idell and Don Weeks, and her brother, Earl James E.J. Infanger. Updated. It wasn't so long ago that people underestimated the serious effects of wake turbulence as well. A tuber channel misrepresented the track by showing "I'd like to return" text overlay on the track right after takeoff. I once nearly killed myself by misinterpreting what was before me driving my motorcycle at night through mist. You make a good point regarding the stacks based upon Google maps. Aviationdb shows N8361D, a Beech J35 registered to him 1998 thru 2014, N265VA RV-12 2014 thru 2017. The National Transportation Safety Board Aviation (NTSB) Accident Preliminary report said poor weather and flying low near a mountain may have impacted the Kekaha airplane crash that happened on . when you can see the ground below you and the runway end ahead you are going to adjust rate of decent so as to hit the piano keys. Precision matters to actual pilots. *That's very little margin for error, and that's following the published approach on the plate. Loss of Control in Flight: Cessna 525C Citation CJ4, N614SB, fatal accident occurred December 29 . Skydive Kauai Cessna 182 crash NTSB final report. They see the tater plant as a job producer airport more of a nuisance. But if the temperature is warm (roughly 0C to -5C), wet snow mixed with liquid water could to stick to your airplane.Dec 11, 2021Frost disrupts the smooth flow of wind over the wing causing reduced lift. Interesting read, what a tragedy. There were five aboard, the Private rated pilot and four passengers. Delete. "It's not a minimums bust if you have any of the required runway elements in sight before you descend. Former Santa Monica Mayor Rex Minter died when a small plane crashed on the beach just south of the Santa Monica Pier Thursday afternoon, officials confirmed. 1. Add a loss of power situation and see how you come out. If I have it wrong, please correct me. It sounds like your operation needs to improve its pilot evaluation, vetting, and training. A home without a TV is "weird" here. Cessna 172P Skyhawk, N97883: Fatal accident occurred October 06, 2022 at Newport News/Williamsburg International Airport (KPHF), Virginia National Transportation Safety Board - Accident Report Number: ERA23FA008 Confusingly, the approach plate says "VGSI and descent angles not coincident", but runway 20 does not have any sort of VGSI at all! She was outgoing, welcoming, and Christlike. See this image that shows the stacks are directly on a standard 3 degree descent angle and there is no VSGI lighting to warn you otherwise. )Would a C208 pilot purposely establish/maintain the almost 50 knot slower accident approach speed after encountering the plume on the first approach? Kathryn S Report Cessna 320d Executive Skyknight N320mf Registered And Operated By Gv Air Inc Fatal Accident Occurred June 28 2018 In Fairfield Utah County Utah The only question is why. "From:http://backissues.smdp.com/090820.pdf(See pdf sheet 10). first opened in 1940, KBYI is publicly-owned by the CITY OF BURLEY, ID, which the father is demanding be closed. Looked for photos of how "recently" roof stacks existed there. "Your nonsense responses like "false" with zero explanation demonstrates that you have no actual idea what TERPS, an obstacle clearance surface, and approach minimums are. Don't bust minimums, ladies and gents. The insurance company, the salvage team, the trauma center were all baffled at how I survived the crash. That sounds like either icing or engine failure or both to me. If the ADSB data is accurate, it will reveal the causal factors apparent in this tragedy. airworthiness of an aircraft or the current aircraft configuration. Recent Google Map views show a very sturdy tubular platform and ladder system was added around the stack sometime after 2016. 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